A jury heard that a terrorist who stabbed and killed two people near the London Bridge in 2019 had tricked a prison boss before the attack.
Local terrorist Usman Khan had a brief conversation with HMP White Moore’s anti-terrorism governor Steve Matin at a prisoner education event at Fishmonger’s Hall.
Kahn was sentenced to 21 years in prison for eight years in a previous terrorist crime and was released from HMP White Moore in 2018.
During an inquest that began on Wednesday, Matin told the jury that he briefly spoke to Khan when the pair collided at a “learn together” event, and Khan tried to hug him.
“”[Khan] I spread my arms and hugged him, but it felt a bit strange to me, “he said.
“I met him on the way, took one hand and hit a prisoner-like shoulder.”
Kahn was quiet at first, but then began talking about life imprisonment, he said.
“One of the things he said was to stop me and raise my eyebrows. He talked about what he did, especially Imam, because Imam couldn’t change his religious position. He said he needed to accept people who weren’t hired in prison, “Machin said.
“I raised my eyebrows, and he immediately said,’Fortunately through these things [Learning Together], I learned that violence is not the way. “
Matin was asked if he had pondered the deal with Khan and said that was all he had done since then.
On Thursday, Matin said he asked Khan why he wore an oversized coat that concealed a fake suicide belt, but thought Khan’s answer to dressing for the weather was “plausible.”
“I’m not in the same headspace as when I was working. I wasn’t there as anti-terrorism governor. I was there as an operations manager for HMP White Moore,” Matin said. After being accused, he said. Nick Armstrong represents the family of Jones and Merritt.
“I couldn’t live my life hoping that every encounter with the community and former criminals would lead to devastation. I couldn’t live in that level of Paranoia,” Matin added.
Matin rejected Armstrong’s suggestion that Khan, an example of a “good news article” for rehabilitation, “effectively blunted his antenna” of concern.
“I saw him involved [with Learning Together] It wasn’t a good news article, “Manchin said.
Regarding the early release from Khan’s prison, Matin said he was making progress.
There was intelligence that Kahn wanted “a return to his old way,” but Matin said, “Surely in his last six months to a year, they [reports of Khan’s links to religious bullying and gang culture in jail] Tailed in both numbers and tones. “
Machin agreed with Samantha Leak QC’s proposal to the government. Prisoners may report malicious or unknowingly false information about another prisoner in order to secure the movement of one of the other prisoners.
“We can’t review intelligence at the same level as research,” says Matin. “You are trying to find an obvious intellect.”
On Wednesday, Khan’s older brother, who cannot be named, says his family was “really sorry.”
“First of all, I would like to extend my deepest condolences to Jack and Saskia’s family. Before submitting evidence to the jury, we are really, really sad about what happened,” he said.
“I’m really sorry as a family for anyone physically or mentally affected. I’m really, really sad. I just wanted to get rid of it from my chest,” he added.
The brothers said the attack was a “total shock” to the family, and if they noticed something, they would “informed him first to stop him in his footsteps.”
In an interview with Learning Together staff in March 2019, Armstrong described witness evidence that Kahn was enthusiastic about the benefits and described him as “deeply upset.”
“He (Khan) was a nasty, violent, self-respecting piece,” Armstrong said, “all the signs” were there, but his family “did not see it.” Added.
Kahn was repeatedly threatened with ringing a fake suicide belt after stabbing Merritt, Jones and several others, and was shot dead shortly thereafter by police.
PA and Associated Press contributed to this report.