Cornin and Abrams vie for race and Georgia voting law


At a hearing of the Senate Judiciary Committee on voting rights, Republican Senator John Cornyn asked Georgia activist Stacey Abrams about the state’s controversial new election law.

Video transcript

John Cornyn: My first question is Miss Abrams. Is the Georgia Election Law Talked by Miss Abrams, Chair Jones, a racist law?

Stacey Abrams: I think I’m actually a racist because I use racism as a way to target the behavior of certain voters and exclude them from participating in elections or to limit their participation in elections. I will.

John Cornyn: So do you think the Georgian Parliament made a deliberate attempt to curb minority voting?

Stacey Abrams: Okay.

John Cornyn: Georgia has an absentee ballot clause with no excuses in its law. Indeed, as Miss Jones said, in her written statement, Connecticut, Delaware, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and New York have no excuses for absentee ballots. Is there a racist voting method in Connecticut, Delaware, Massachusetts, New Hampshire and New York?

Stacey Abrams: I think they are behind the eight ball and need to be improved. And that’s why I support the voting rights clause of the People’s Law, which expands access to absentee ballots for no reason. But, as explained earlier, how these behaviors are targeted. Georgia has benefited from targeting communities that are new to these resources. Therefore, after 15 years of use of Republican-controlled absentee ballot, it suddenly changed its thinking about usefulness, processing, timeliness, and ability-

John Cornyn: So you think-sorry. I only have 5 minutes to ask a question, so I hope you can answer my question. So, for clarity, I think Connecticut, Delaware, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and New York are doing more restrictive absentee ballots. We believe these election laws are racist.

Stacey Abrams: Senator, I’m answering your question. Your question is-

John Cornyn: No, Miss Adams, you are filibuster. Can you answer yes or no?

Stacey Abrams: I’m not. Sir, I’m not filibuster. I’m very specific, but I believe that restrictive voting laws should be dealt with by People’s Law. Georgia’s decision-

John Cornyn: So, for clarity, whether they are racists or not, you just-do you think you need to change them because you disagree with them, right?

Stacey Abrams: No, that’s not what I said.

John Cornyn: OK.

Stacey Abrams: I am completely pleased with these laws, which were modified in 2021 in response to increased use by people of color, that is, enforced by the Republicans 15 years ago and until they are used successfully Said he was. By people of color-intention is important.

John Cornyn: And you think-

Stacey Abrams: And the intent behind these laws-

John Cornyn: Do you think so-

Stacey Abrams: -Georgia issues.

John Cornyn: Do you think the voter ID requirement is racist?

Stacey Abrams: No. I’ve always said-in fact, I wrote a book about that fact-

John Cornyn: It doesn’t limit-

Stacey Abrams: -I support voter identification.

John Cornyn: Doesn’t it limit voting, voter ID requirements?

Stacey Abrams: I support voter identification. What I disagree with is the increasingly narrow form of voter ID restrictions that limits who can use their IDs.

John Cornyn: And Georgia gives-so you can use free IDs, utility bills and more. Therefore, I wouldn’t expect Georgia law to limit voting due to voter identification requirements in the following cases:

Stacey Abrams: That’s not what I said, teacher. What I said is that absentee ballot requirements add voter IDs in very rare uses. This excludes about 200,000 voters who do not have access or do not currently have those IDs from the process.

John Cornyn: So voter ID–

Stacey Abrams: And they are disproportionately colored people.

John Cornyn: Are you racist or not racist?

Stacey Abrams: Intention is always important, teacher. And that is the point of this conversation. That’s the point of Jim Crow’s story, and Jim Crow didn’t just see the activity. It saw the intention. It saw the action. And it targeted behaviors that were disproportionately used by people of color.

John Cornyn: Did you know that Gallup says that 69% of black voters support voter IDs and 75% of all support voters?

Stacey Abrams: Sir, I’m one of the people who support voter IDs. I have never objected to the voter ID. I oppose narrowing and narrowing tolerance-

John Cornyn: So, do you agree with the voter ID in some situations and disagree in other situations?

Stacey Abrams: That’s not what I said, teacher. I said-

John Cornyn: No, you said intentionally. So is a non-malicious voter ID okay?

Stacey Abrams: No. That’s not what I said.

John Cornyn: Good–

Stacey Abrams: Senator-

John Cornyn: Mr. —

Stacey Abrams: -We will answer your questions.

John Cornyn: Miss Jones-

Stacey Abrams: But if you intend to do so-

John Cornyn: -I have a question in the remaining time.

Stacey Abrams: -Mislead my answer, it’s inappropriate.

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