This Manager Calls Fake Meetings Employee ‘Loyalty Tests’ And People Are Totally Shredding Employees Online


I think most of us agree that upper management dictates the work experience. Your manager is, at best, an advocate and mentor who evaluates and prioritizes your success. At worst, they’re micromanaging nuisances on power trips, making every second of every day a living hell.

“Your boss is a terrible person.”


A post recently became a hot topic r/antiwork A subreddit where the internet rips the latter manager to shreds.The point: they fake meeting As a “loyalty test” for employees.

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According to Reddit user u/geometric sun (or the original poster’s OP), they were “called to an all staff meeting at 9am” but left after 20 minutes because the manager didn’t show up (perfectly normal response).

A woman who says,

A woman who says, “That’s natural.”


Later, OP and his colleague received the following email from a manager who was absent from the meeting.

Message from boss to subordinate

u/geometric sun

“Today’s meeting was deliberately avoided by me.”

Jimmy Fallon said,

Jimmy Fallon “What?”


“My goal was to see who was going to hit the plate and who was going to be my left-hander and my right-hander.”

Donna said,

Donna: Excuse me?


So let me clarify this. This manager deliberately organized fake meetings and wasted employees’ time. I expected one of the employees to stand up and lead the meeting himself??? to see who should be promoted???

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Screenshot of “Sitt’s Creek”


I’ve never been a manager before, but I can confidently say it’s not.

I’ve seen some ridiculous manipulations at work in the past and this is really nonsense. Instead of coordinating this strange and unnecessary “test”, the manager could have told the report about open positions, gauged their interest, and talked to them one-on-one if necessary. right? ? ?

James Kennedy's

James Kennedy “Think about it”


People in the comments section were just as outraged and completely ripped this manager apart (which is understandable). Some were outright critics of the sloppy management style.

“So someone was supposed to ‘step up’ and moderate the meeting instead of the boss, without someone even asking for it and without a clear idea of ​​what the meeting was about? This is poorly managed.”

u/sir hacken slash

“People who don’t mind sitting around wasting time get promoted, but people who wait a reasonable amount of time before going back to work don’t get promoted? Heh, that sounds like good business practice. ”

u/mount dew ferrule bottle

“How do you and your colleagues know that’s what your manager wants? No one is a telepath. Second, the ‘manager’ is supposed to run the meeting. that’s their job. it’s not your job. And finally, “If you think this person is going too far, you need to delegate and actually talk to people, instead of playing stupid games where you have to read and understand their minds.”

u/ butterscotch Past4812

Others shared their own stories of bad managers, showing that this sort of thing is (unfortunately) ingrained and not all that uncommon.

“The last job I did, my boss gave me a ‘loyalty test’. She left a bag of open candies in public and was shocked when people took her candies away.” .

The multi-billion dollar company is running like crazy right now basically because of the exodus over Reese’s bags. ”


“My manager schedules team meetings at the same time I pick up the kids from school, start dinner, and pack my lunch. , I get speeches like, ‘I couldn’t come to the meeting today.’ And every meeting, I just don’t care.”

u/drinkslinger 1974

Some had fun ideas for revenge (OP probably won’t do any of these, but they don’t want to get fired).

“You have to make a date and time with your manager, don’t show up, and copy and paste exactly what the manager wrote.”


“If I were you, I’d be sitting there all day getting paid. Oh, do you want me to go back to work? No, I’m sorry. I don’t want my boss to come and moderate the meeting or fire me.” I’ll wait. Thank you.” ”


And finally, u/ ember shot 89 You raised a very interesting point about what “loyalty” really means in the modern workforce.

“I don’t understand the concept of job loyalty. I work for you and you won’t give me any tenure, so why should I have loyalty?” You can literally fire me at any time without notice.” I am loyal to my income (if enough), my family and myself. That’s all. If you don’t give me a reason why I should be this way, why do I feel this way? First place? “

Personally, I’m still figuring out what to do if I get this email after the meeting. But what do you think about this mismanagement? Let me know in the comments.